Let me speak, please. You can have guidelines all you like. You can do all sorts of things but what it speaks to is that we have set systems of allocation of special education assistants, SNAs, and special education teachers, and they have expanded exponentially. I am not arguing politically. They just have expanded exponentially but in certain cases the schools involved may need additional multidisciplinary supports. In many cases these behaviours are challenging and difficult. In my view, the last resort should be seclusion side or the expulsion. I have come across children who have been expelled by a school, which is beyond comprehension for me.

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