Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

-----in respect of future pay agreements. That has to be in an overall context because the trend that has occurred over the last decade has been that the public service pay agreement is first settled and then we enter into discussions with the section 39 organisations. It is my view that the overall framework has to be sustainable into the future for these organisations, because they are providing vital public services. I acknowledge that. Within that framework, there should be mechanisms to try to resolve this. Notwithstanding the complexities, these are statutorily or legally private. They are not public service organisations. That is the point I am making. They vary pretty significantly in size, scale etc.

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