Mary Lou McDonald (Dublin Central, Sinn Fein) | Oireachtas source

I absolutely agree with the Taoiseach that nobody should jump to conclusions. What I am asking him to do, and this is a necessary precursor to getting the terms of reference for the review right, is simply to establish, as a matter of fact, whether a meeting or meetings occurred involving clinicians, and also the head of Children's Health Ireland, CHI, in which these experimental surgical techniques were discussed, whether guidance was sought and if it was given. The establishment of those basic facts - not conclusions, but basic matters of fact - creates a very different complexion and framework for the work of the review. I urge the Taoiseach to do that.

I know the Taoiseach is going to meet with advocacy groups, parents and families. However, I have to reiterate the fact that, according to families, the idea that CHI or the HSE would have any hand, act or part in designing the terms of reference is just an intolerable proposition, given the profound failure of their children and the very big questions that arise. I ask the Taoiseach to address that question again please.

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