Verona Murphy (Wexford, Independent) | Oireachtas source

That is something that they would disagree with. That is why I would encourage the Minister to certainly keep talking with them. They have a range of optional extras that they put to him that can be implemented. I think the Minister will find that most of what parents want is quality first and availability second or both in tandem, absolutely. The reality is there are many hidden costs in childcare that nobody has accounted for and even parents do not consider. This includes the training and education that now goes into child carers and everything from insurance to the retention of staff. It is not just about how there are staffing shortages, but also the retention of staff. It primarily comes down to much of what Ms Dunne said is not being recognised as cost. As I said, core funding is there as a headline figure. However, when you delve into it, the problems surface. We can only understand and remedy it through the providers, just as how we can only build houses with developers.

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