Katherine Zappone (Dublin South West, Independent) | Oireachtas source

Deputy Murphy will not be surprised if I say that I do not think it was all a failure. We have gone through a lot of those arguments before so I do not think I need to identify them again and come back at the Deputy, as I often would, with regard to what did happen. I do not think it was all a failure. The Deputy is looking at the Minister who helped to negotiate the temporary wage subsidy scheme that now pays the wages of the childcare workers. That was a huge thing, working with my Department and with other Departments who ultimately agreed to that. It was a huge thing. When the Deputy says "Is now not the time", I think, yes, we ought to take a look at what has happened already. That is part of the planning as we move forward. As I have said before, it is up to you.

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