Dáil debates

Thursday, 11 October 2018

Ceisteanna ó Cheannairí - Leaders' Questions

 

12:00 pm

Photo of Ruth CoppingerRuth Coppinger (Dublin West, Solidarity) | Oireachtas source

Dr. Scally told the Joint Committee on Health that there are still serious issues with slides sent by Clinical Pathology Laboratories Inc., CPL, to other labs in the USA. This is the outsourcing that the HSE did not even know about. Mr. O'Carroll made the point that when a mistake is made in other countries, the person in the lab who made the mistake is debriefed as to why he or she might have made the mistake. That has never been done in any of the labs that CervicalCheck has used. The reason is that CervicalCheck did not even know what labs were doing the testing. That is what we have now discovered in many cases. The outsourcing was being re-outsourced.

I ask about the tender documents. Why is it that we cannot get our hands on the tender document for the labs? It was revealed by Dr. Scally that original tender documents were shredded by the HSE. Was an email ever sent? It is 2018 and there is only one original document, so was it delivered by plane? It reminded me of the quotation that Mr. Tony O'Brien apparently had on his wall about speaking truth to power. When I heard about the shredding of the contract it reminded me of Noam Chomsky's words, "power knows the truth already; it is just busy trying to conceal it." It seems that is the case with the HSE and the original tender documents for the labs.

It is still going on. Sonic Healthcare, which is a parent company of MedLab Pathology and CPL, is now outsourcing to Australia. The kernel of the issue in regard to the death of Emma and other women is still not being investigated and has still not been changed.

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