Finian McGrath (Dublin Bay North, Independent) | Oireachtas source

I accept many of the arguments that Deputy Brassil has put forward. For example, he spoke about unexpected costs and agency staff issues. I have noted this in my own portfolio covering disabilities. If one does not have stable services, it costs more to bring in agency staff, so we must address that particular issue.

We also have to address the issue of recruiting administrative and medical staff, including nurses. There are difficulties in getting such staff. I agree with the Deputy that we have to clarify the figures involved. I will bring those concerns back to the Minister, Deputy Harris, and the HSE because we must have answers.

I am glad, however, that the Deputy accepts the model of activity-based funding is a new one. It ensures a fair system of resource allocation, drives efficiency and increases transparency. At the same time, if there are any funding or staffing issues during the transition period, we have to address them. We all want to reform the health services, but above all, we want to ensure patients are safe in hospital.

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