Alex White (Dublin South, Labour) | Oireachtas source

The Deputy asked how many times the interdepartmental group had met since July. I do not have this information but I will revert to him on the matter.

The Deputy also made a not unreasonable point on consultation with farmers who are directly affected by the directives. As I indicated, there has been engagement with representative bodies of farmers. The Deputy indicated that specific ad hocgroups are dealing with this issue. I see no reason not to engage with these groups and I will communicate the information the Deputy provided to the Minister. Perhaps the matter could be also raised with the Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine. In circumstances such as this, Ministers are generally open to meeting representatives of persons affected by policy decisions. I am sure the Deputy's concern in this regard can be, therefore, addressed, although I do not propose to make a direct or specific commitment on behalf of a colleague in respect of meeting a particular group or body. As a general proposition, however, it is a good idea that people who are affected by issues should have their voices heard by government, notwithstanding that the Minister has already engaged with the main farming representative bodies.

As to the precise level of the daily fine, I cannot possibly answer that on my feet but I will revert to the Deputy on the matter. If there is a lack of compliance and a threat of infringement proceedings, these must be addressed. This does not depend entirely on the level of the fine. If a fine is possible, we will wish to avoid it. On the other hand, if the Deputy wants more information as to precisely what is the risk in respect of fines, including the level of fine, I will do my best to assist him in that regard.

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