Enda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael) | Oireachtas source

The issue of waiting lists, to which the Deputy referred, has been in the news in recent days. I have heard authoritative sources from the HSE address this question. The manipulation of waiting lists has been denied both by the Minister and the HSE and they are very clear on that. The Deputy knows there is a €500 million overrun in the HSE and the Department of Health this year, so we have to start from 2015 and the budget next week and see the most practical and feasible arrangements that can be put in place to contain costs while maintaining front-line service delivery.

In regard to the row we had about the medical cards, obviously, there was some very-----

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