Mattie McGrath (Tipperary South, Independent)

We know the realpolitik is that these agencies and quangos have the power, some rightly and others wrongly, and they will use it. I discussed that with a Member before he left the Chamber. The NGOs and An Taisce already are drafting their complaints to Brussels. They see the "codology" being peddled here by a senior Minister in the Government which will result in there not being any standards. If the process is working, it is fine but there is no definition of "working". It is a subjective term, and the Minister knows better than I do.

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