Phil Hogan (Carlow-Kilkenny, Fine Gael)

I know Deputy Martin Ferris is anxious to see them.

I must inform Deputy Michael Healy-Rae that there is no confusion on my part. If he is adding to people's confusion, that is his problem. I will tell people the truth on any matters relating to rural areas. We have engaged in 35 hours of debate on this legislation and I would have expected the Deputy to have heard me, on several occasions, clarifying many issues of concern to him and Deputy Martin Ferris. Planning permission will not be required. I am surprised the Deputy heard that for the first time today because I have said it about five or six times.

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