Mick Wallace (Wexford, Independent)

I reassure Deputy Durkan that I too am very keen to stay in Europe. I am also an optimist at heart and believe everything is possible but I also believe we should get a fair deal from Europe which is not the case at present. I say to the Deputy that when a person goes into a bookie's office and backs a horse, if the horse does not win, the person loses. I agree with him on that point. However, if a person bought bonds in a bank and lost on them, that person would still get the money back under the present arrangement. That is a bit different.

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