Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)

I accept that. I am talking about the agenda of Cabinet sub-committees. I have been told that we cannot discuss it on confidentiality grounds, yet, as we know from the Minister, Deputy Varadkar, and others, they can talk openly about it and so on. That is the reality as we see it. It is absurd and perhaps it is something we should collectively address in terms of what can and cannot be discussed. If Ministers, advisers and spokespeople can discuss it, surely Members of the Oireachtas should be in a position-----

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