Brian Lenihan Jnr (Dublin West, Fianna Fail)

No, I am answering the Deputy's question. This is the one item of information she never wishes to hear. The gap to which I refer is real and the Deputy is of the view that we should try to reduce it by only €4.5 billion next year. Leaving aside any interest payments which must be made on moneys borrowed in connection with banking, it is that gap which lies at the heart of our fiscal and budgetary difficulties.

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