Barry Andrews (Dún Laoghaire, Fianna Fail)

Yes, we find it hard to sell our story. It does not suit the narrative that is sometimes fed by comments made in the House. Deputy Shatter is concerned about the volume of work involved for the review group. I share his concern since the new figures were issued. I have indicated to members of the group and in the media that I will provide the group with whatever additional resources it needs in order to complete its work. It is an issue about which the group is concerned. Whatever additional personnel, such as researchers, are required, we will meet those needs.

I repeat my objection to the amendments. The word "guidelines" is used specifically and deliberately to ensure that these allow the greatest flexibility possible to the HSE to provide the information. The guidelines are distinguished from the "directions" under section 10 of the 2004 Act. I should also make it clear that under section 40B, the executive shall provide information to the Minister without delay and shall comply with any guidelines that may be issued on the provision of information or on the class of documents the Minister specifies must be complied with. That is a much stronger position than has been the case so far and the section can only be described as one that improves the accountability of the HSE to the Minister. Any other interpretation does not hold water.

The publication of guidelines is something that can be provided through freedom of information channels, if appropriate. Deputy Shatter pointed out with some insight reasons that had not occurred to me with regard to whether to allow this information. There are serious circumstances where it may not be in the public interest to release that information.

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