Brian Hayes (Dublin South West, Fine Gael)

-----is the way to go. That should be in public and not in secretive bilateral meetings between the Tánaiste and the Catholic Church or the Tánaiste and other parties behind closed doors; it should be out in public. Political parties should be represented there. As I have said before, if ever there were a necessity for a talking shop, it is on this issue. It will not be easy to arrive at a conclusion with which everyone is happy. How will the Tánaiste find out the views of parents if she refuses to accept my suggestion of an initial survey of every parent in the country organised by the Minister's Department? Is she equally refusing to accept the suggestion by myself and Deputy Quinn that a forum on patronage be established? How will she do this?

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