Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Fine Gael)

I was asking the Minister of State to give way to clarify a point and was not seeking to make a Second Stage speech. I want the Minister of State to clarify - I did not mean to be disorderly when he was speaking - if, as he said, it is unconstitutional in his eyes to impose a reduction in salary on judges, how then he can justify the Minister saying in his speech that he has decided that there will be no increases in judges' pay during the lifetime of this Government and that future Governments may choose, as in the past, to continue this source of action. Surely, that is discriminatory-----

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