Billy Kelleher (Cork North Central, Fianna Fail)

I have no difficulty in doing that. If we are to seriously degenerate the debate of the challenges facing Ireland, particularly the economic crisis, the global recession, an international credit crisis and all the other ills facing this country such as rising unemployment, we could say the solution would be to throw a few Ministers of State to the wolves and all the other issues would be resolved. However, that simplifies a very important debate.

We should have Dáil and Oireachtas reform. There is a need to look at Seanad reform. I have no difficulties in discussing those issues. We are all aware that Oppositions embrace Dáil and Seanad reform and Governments, by their nature, are resistant to them. That has been the swings and roundabouts since I was elected in 1993.

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