Martin Mansergh (Tipperary South, Fianna Fail)

Most if not all public representatives have received detailed representations from the retail trade, focused on the practicalities of some of the proposed regulations. I am glad the Minister has indicated that detailed discussions and negotiations are taking place on a voluntary code of practice, independently monitored and enforced. If achieved, such a code will be a welcome and constructive measure.

It is correct to have some measures to prevent a proliferation of off-licences in particular places. I am also pleased to note the introduction of the time limits of 10.30 a.m. and 12.30 a.m. on Sundays. I was never sure of the reason these limits were removed. It is important the Garda has the ability to act, in the case of a group which is causing a disturbance, for instance, in an area of waste ground, to confiscate drink where a nuisance is being caused. I would not quarrel with the covert measures to deal with the sale of alcohol to persons under age.

As Minister of State with responsibility for the arts, I am impressed by the number of theatres in Dublin when looked at from a licensing point of view. One would never know from advertisements in the arts pages that there were so many theatres. For this reason, I understand the reason this issue is being addressed.

The cost of soft drinks on licensed premises, while outside the remit of the Bill, was referred to by Deputy Stanton and in the report of the alcohol advisory group. Soft drinks in premises cost at least as much as a pint. I accept, however, that pubs have overheads and other costs and these items may not be as cheap as they would be over the counter in a shop.

The broader issue of social drinking, particularly in the countryside, was also adverted to. Essentially, this is not a problem in the cities where taxis and public transport are available. However, an issue arises in rural areas. While the law must be the same for everyone, just as tax inspectors will focus on profiles for tax evaders rather than going after every ordinary PAYE taxpayer, so the Garda should concentrate on areas where the problem is greatest. Nevertheless, I would not object to the Government or public health agencies advertising the ideal because I believe it is preferable not to drink if one wishes to drive. That is not to say the limit will be lowered to zero or some impractical level but there is never any harm in holding the ideal before people.

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