Brian Cowen (Laois-Offaly, Fianna Fail)

I can quote far more examples of where it is working. The problem I have with some of this debate since it began is that people are talking out of both sides of their mouths. They ask why it has not happened by now and in the meantime they are opposed to it. Do people want civil and public servants to stay or to go? People should take a position and then let us figure out how——

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