Charles Flanagan (Laois-Offaly, Fine Gael)

I listened carefully to the points made by Deputy O'Shea and we discussed this issue at length on Committee Stage. The Minister of State's argument that the legislation should not be as prescriptive as would be the case if Deputy O'Shea's amendment were accepted makes sense. The objective of the course in question is to train students to be proficient in Irish legal terminology and to foster the use of the Irish language in court cases. I am not sure how many people engaging in the course would be likely to have absolutely no knowledge of the Irish language. I expect most participants would have some degree of knowledge which, if improved upon, would allow them to participate in future in legal proceedings conducted through Irish.

On balance, the Minister of State has opted for a commonsensical approach in arguing that we should not set down detailed legislative requirements as to the delivery of this course. If there are practical difficulties of the type adverted to by Deputy O'Shea, I am sure they can be accommodated within the current training procedures. If there are students who require certain aspects of the course to be explained in the English language, I am sure that can be arranged. Incorporating prescriptions in the legislation in this regard seems unnecessary and may give rise to undue difficulties in respect of the organisation of the course. I accept the Minister of State's point and urge that consensus be reached between him and Deputy O'Shea to avoid a division of the House.

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