Bertie Ahern (Dublin Central, Fianna Fail)

We can deal with the reports of last week, which raises a question. If Deputy Kenny's view is that the HSE is an inefficient bureaucratic monster in which there is no delegation other than from the centre, which has been criticised, and in which there is no delegation to any of the regions, I cannot agree with him. The HSE has a designated manager in every region, through the National Hospitals Office, and in all the approximately 20 centres that have been set up. It has a line manager in these areas whose——

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