Richard Bruton (Dublin North Central, Fine Gael)

When he sees all the little lights shining he will move. The Minister should take his courage in his hands. This is something he can do that will have a positive effect for 30,000, 40,000 or 50,000 people who will retire in the next year. It will not cost anything but will give people flexibility and choice, the ability to make decisions for themselves and it will be seen as a progressive reform. The Irish Congress of Trade Unions supports it. I doubt that IBEC opposes it. It will be the Minister's first toe in the water. He may find it quite warm and be tempted to go much deeper, much more quickly.

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