Bertie Ahern (Dublin Central, Fianna Fail)

I remind Deputy Kenny the finance officer responsible for the numbers operated under the HSE budget subhead but that is neither here nor there. The Department of Health and Children is also involved. I am giving Deputy Kenny the figures that are available from the Department's note. The Department of Health and Children conveyed sanction for a revised employment ceiling for the health service for the end of 2006 of 108,000 whole-time equivalents, subject to certain conditions. This represents an increase of 10,400 on the existing approved ceiling. If I understand Deputy Kenny's argument correctly, it is that there is a reduction of 1,000 staff. If he is saying——

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