Dick Roche (Wicklow, Fianna Fail)

We could argue about the issues of the local government managerial system for a long time but I reiterate councillors have significantly more powers than they realise sometimes. It is incumbent on everybody elected to a local council, especially since the end of the dual mandate, to inform themselves of their powers and to use them judiciously.

The interpretation and application of the guidelines, which is the central issue in the Deputy's question, is a matter for each local authority. However, the managers and directors of services have a duty to ensure consistency among planners. This has given rise to the frustration expressed by the Deputy. They have a duty to ensure consistency among planners, both in terms of the interpretation and application of the guidelines. Leadership and example is required at the highest level. That is where the manager's role comes into play. After all, the manager is the chief planning officer and it is he or she who must ensure consistency. If there is inconsistency, a lack of transparency or a feeling that the guidelines are not being properly enforced, the councillors can raise that issue in open council.

I am not convinced by the argument that councillors are particularly powerless. If that argument is put forward often enough, the public will ask why we have councils at all. We have them because they have specific powers. However, I share the Deputy's concern on this matter. The guidelines are intended to have, and do have, statutory application. They are not something that is being operated on a pick and mix basis. They should apply consistently and we will continue to monitor them.

Deputy Cowley referred to the tragic case he brought to my attention. I had the pleasure of speaking with the gentleman concerned on several occasions. He should be listened to, and I have made certain points about his comments. At every local authority level, these guidelines are applicable and they should be operated in a transparent, open and consistent way.

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