Brian Lenihan Jnr (Dublin West, Fianna Fail)

Deputy Gogarty is under an illusion which I fear will blind him if he ever has the opportunity of entering Government. The Department of Education and Science and the Minister never accepted the Rochford report nor the reasoning in it. I am concerned because we have heard so much from the Opposition benches about value for money. This is a clear indication of any negotiations in any future Government which his party naturally aspires to. I noticed the outbreak of realism on that side of the House in recent times——

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