Bertie Ahern (Dublin Central, Fianna Fail)

Since we last discussed the issue, the Government has produced the document, which has been well received, setting out the White Paper on the constitution. I hope it is circulated widely. The Department of Foreign Affairs has made it available through all the usual channels, including schools, libraries, public buildings and various organisations. I am aware from third level colleges and other organisations that there has been a good take-up on it, which has been useful. It will be important also for the Forum on Europe, which has been organising a structured debate, not just at their own conferences but for second and third level students in the weeks ahead, which is important. A number of national organisations have prepared various documents. NALA has produced an excellent document on the European project which I saw recently. All these initiatives are to be welcomed.

Some 13 or 14 countries have ratified the constitution, while another few must do so. The situation in France or the Netherlands is unlikely to change for the next two years. I know from my European colleagues that most people believe they should continue with the constitution. While it would be possible to renegotiate it and omit parts of it, it would be very difficult. While the debate will continue for the next few years, eventually 18 or 19 countries will probably ratify it, which will put pressure on the remaining countries, including Ireland. Currently, there is no change in the French position. I note what some of the contenders for the French Presidency are beginning to say. This debate will unfold in the period ahead. The Dutch Government has said it will not return to the issue. There is no other initiative at this stage. It was agreed in June that during the Austrian Presidency next summer, the period of reflection will continue. This is happening in most countries, as is the case here. I attended a debate on the issue in the Seanad last week and the document is now available. Many of the organisations are actively organising seminars and conferences, which is good. Those of us in favour of the European project should promote that.

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