John Curran (Dublin Mid West, Fianna Fail)

I welcome the opportunity to speak on the motion, which came about specifically as a result of a visit of an all-party Oireachtas delegation to the US, led by the Ceann Comhairle. Among the issues raised, the most pressing issue, which arose time and again, was that of the undocumented Irish in the US. In particular, we discussed the issue with Senator John McCain, who had a thorough understanding of the problem, not only from the American perspective but from an Irish perspective and with a knowledge of the issues and problems it causes here. Having discussed it, the last point he made was that this US legislation needs support, including from Ireland.

I thank the Minister for his support and I am grateful for the full co-operation of all parties and the Whips in organising this debate — it is rare one sees such co-operation in this House. The undocumented Irish living in the US is often seen as a rural issue. However, as a Dublin Deputy, I know many families in Clondalkin and Lucan who rarely talk about this subject because they are afraid that if they speak to the wrong person, their son or daughter living abroad will be in some way compromised. This causes real difficulties. Aside from ordinary occasions such as Christmas or weddings, people can no longer travel home for critical events such as illnesses or funerals. It is a real issue that affects everybody. Every Member of the House has many constituents who are affected. However, it is an issue that people will not discuss publicly because they are afraid of compromising their position.

The US is prepared to deal with the issue and feels it must do so. However, it is not just considering this from an Irish perspective. The matter must be dealt with as it is estimated that up to 13 million undocumented people live in the US, a situation the Americans view primarily as a security risk. It is important this motion is debated because other legislation is contemplated, apart from that proposed by Senators Kennedy and McCain, that would be not be as positive from an Irish perspective. Having spoken to Senators and Congressmen of different persuasions, I feel there is a real willingness to deal with this legislation; I believe the Bill will be passed.

The Minister of State, Deputy Killeen, referred to the Bill being amended. However, it is important that we realise there is a significant number of undocumented residents in the US. The US Administration is quite blunt in stating there will not be an amnesty. Instead, there will be a method of progression for those currently in the US illegally in which they will apply for visas while there. Not all of the other Bills proposed would offer that opportunity. This is why it is important we, united in the House, fully support the Kennedy-McCain Bill with this aspect fully intact, namely, that those who are undocumented and currently illegal must be allowed the opportunity to regularise their situation from within the US. If that core issue is not addressed, these people will not come forward and the problem will continue forever. Not all other politicians in the US — Senators and Congressmen — necessarily agree with this point. However, it is critically important we emphasise this because the Irish in the US will not participate in the scheme if they must leave the country first.

I fully support the motion. I compliment my colleagues of all parties and both Houses who travelled on the recent trip to the US. We made good and telling points that were listened to by those we met.

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