Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)

I would argue to the contrary. It is not as simple as has been suggested. When I saw the file, I decided I could not preside over introducing a scheme that could result in a €200 charge instead of a €50 charge. Deputy Howlin, who was Minister for Health for two and a half years, has as much experience of the concerns we are discussing as I have. The Deputy is laughing in acknowledgement. Can he tell me any scheme that was ever devised where the costs and inputs did not increase?

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