Bertie Ahern (Dublin Central, Fianna Fail)

It is an EU arms embargo. Every government and parliamentary delegation to China is asked about this as it is a big issue there. The first item raised at every press conference is the arms embargo. When the Chinese media visit Ireland, it also raises the issue. While it is seen by the Chinese as a great affront, we see it differently. I reiterated the Irish position on the matter, which is well-known to the Chinese authorities as they were dealing with us during the EU Presidency. Department of Foreign Affairs officials spent much time then dealing with this. The Chinese would like to see the embargo lifted. I explained this can only be done in the context of the European Council. The code of practice on arms exports must be completed first. They reluctantly appreciate that position as it will not happen otherwise.

Deputy Sargent is right on environmental issues. In every area of resources, China is outstripping demand. Pollution and industrial development is becoming a major issue there. One sees people on the streets wearing protective masks. While the push bike is still the most popular means of transport in Beijing and Shanghai, there is a growing car dependence. Shanghai seems to be getting a grip on this matter. Deputy Sargent will be aware of the city's new public transport system that uses a new type of rail. It is enormously helpful in reducing carbon emissions. Shanghai has large environmental projects, including the clearing of slums and replacing them with green spaces and trees. However, it is still a large problem.

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