Eoghan Kenny (Cork North-Central, Labour)

I welcome the witnesses. From the questions that have been ongoing from my colleagues, it seems to be the case that the witnesses’ organisations have to be told about issues as opposed to ongoing monitoring. I see Mr. O'Leary is shaking his head. I completely disagree with him on this because this had to be brought to his attention by a new CEO. This had to be brought to his attention. Ongoing monitoring was failing. There is no point in him shaking his head at this because shaking of the head is of no comfort to the people who have to bail out the Peter McVerry Trust because of the lack of ongoing monitoring. That is a fact. Who was in charge of the inspection for both the AHBRA and the Charities Regulator? Were they internal staff members?