Mr. Fergal O'Leary:

I would not offer a view. I think that side of their work is outside of the AHB bit that we regulate. What I can say is, however you characterise it, it is clear that the board and executive were not managing the affairs well, either in the short or long term. That is an example of it. Something that is relevant to our role is the CAS funding and the way it was reviewed by the board. As outlined in our inspector's report, the testimony subsequently was absolutely shocking from our point of view. It may be all the same issue here that we are talking about in different parts of the organisation.