Ms Louise McGirr:

We have a much more ambitious target because by freeing up the devolution to the regions, this allows them the flexibility to convert. We are not locking down posts. They are free to convert and are planning conversion wholesale. In certain sites like Naas, for example, they rely on agency because of population growth, and the way we used to do the numbers, where they were restricted within a region on the headcount, meant they could not convert. They were providing services through agency. That is not uncommon. This is changing in the new process where REOs are prioritising high agency areas for allocation of the posts.