Patricia Stephenson (Social Democrats)

May I jump back in? There is a lot of public interest in the national children's hospital. Hopefully, we will reach the end of that day soon and it will be delivered but there is a bit of a perception of a pay-as-you-go model in terms of change orders and how that has materialised. I am not blaming the CIF for that. I think the issue was with the design process. What is the witnesses' perception of that? There is a challenge if you get a contract and you are asked to deliver something and the costing does not relate to the actual specification.