Mr. Niall Gleeson:

As I said, many of them are from an older cohort. They might have been with the local authorities for 20 or 30 years and they are happier to redeploy within the local authority. They would get the same pension entitlement if they came over to us, but they would be on a different pension scheme, so some of them just do not want that if they are five years away from retirement. There are lots of reasons, but they have a choice.