Mr. John Sherwin:

We have very little engagement with corporates. DPOs tend to have engagement with corporates around things like corporate social responsibility and involvement from that end of things. For instance, the Irish Deaf Society would engage with corporates on providing Irish Sign Language and deaf awareness training. It is very much a high level of awareness but not involved in product design in any way. We would assume that the same lack in other technological development is still going to continue in the development of AI. We are on an awareness-building programme with Government about co-creation and we are struggling in certain areas of Government to get into that space. Certainly with less guardrails or demand from corporates, there is not the incentive that there is for Government to look after minorities in the corporate sector. From a Government perspective, perhaps if there is funding, Government supports and enterprise development, there should be conditions around that and some of the conditions should include co-creation with disabled people and deaf people.