Ciarán Ahern (Dublin South West, Labour)

That is very interesting.

On retrofitting in general, the CIF mentioned this is still a micro industry and difficult to scale. I am a TD for the Labour Party and we have been pushing this idea of street-by-street retrofitting where this might be done at scale. A whole estate or street would get together and all try to retrofit their homes at the same time. We have been proposing the idea it might be co-ordinated by these energy renovation information hubs. Every house might be different or have different needs, finances and all that kind of stuff. Is that kind of idea something the witnesses see working? Have they any sense of when these energy renovation information hubs are going to come into being? Is that something that might help give more scale to the industry or more certainty to contractors or developers who might be interested in getting into that area? Again, that is for everyone.