Cormac Devlin (Dún Laoghaire, Fianna Fail)

I thank both witnesses for their statements and their passion in this area. It comes across. To Professor Heenan directly, on the strand two piece you mentioned earlier and the North-South Ministerial Council, outside of those meetings, are you ultimately saying there is no other work taking place at all with regard to research or collaboration between the health systems in the two jurisdictions? Is there absolutely nothing happening at all or, at different levels, is it more informal?