Aubrey McCarthy (Independent)

At a broader level, dereliction and vacancy is not just about poor ownership; sometimes it is about the cost equation and whether it actually works. It is about the cost-benefit analysis being compliant and whether it is commercially viable regarding the economic value of the property. I have spoken about Baggot Street hospital. It is there, and it is amazing. It would provide so much housing, but I think we would need the EuroMillions and more to do it up. Vacancy and dereliction refurbishment is wonderful, but without grant aid, I do not know whether it is economically viable in a lot of cases. What is the witnesses' view on that?