Mr. Ian Talbot:

Yes, the citizens' assembly on biodiversity. For example, we presented at that and tried to give a business perspective on it. Again, we have been talking a lot about things like wastewater capabilities. We know that storms, excess rainfall and so on are overwhelming some of our sewerage facilities as well, all of which feeds in. We talked last week about the tragic fish kill in Mallow. We are very aware of these things, but a lot of the time we can be people who are constrained as well. The biggest issue tends to bubble up the top. The biggest issues we have been having are the same things, which are housing, infrastructure, the cost of salaries and energy costs. These tend to dominate but it is a good reminder to us all. I have not been able to take it all in, but I saw the reports about the EPA report on RTÉ news last night and I have been going through the data, which is fascinating.

I am also struck by a silly benchmark. I used to drive up and down to Waterford a lot - I worked for a company in Waterford for a while - and the windscreen of the car on the way down and on the way back used to be covered, unfortunately, in biodiversity. I did the journey yesterday and there was not a thing - not a fly. That is the biggest thing for me. Something is very different from where we were 25 or 30 years ago as well. That is a good reminder.