Mr. Stephen Kent:

On the Senator's first point, that is Expressway route 64. It is a commercial service. We operate it under Expressway.

It is not subvented like PSO services are here on the other side. To a large extent, we set our fares based on our costs and trying to make sure the route is sustainable. The fares are not necessarily set by the NTA. It goes back to the operator. We are in dialogue. The NTA sees our fares. The issue we have at the moment on commercial fares, which is related to the earlier point, is that while a lot of the low fares that have been operating with the 20% reduction have been good and have promoted more public transport usage, we also have increasing costs. That is coming through for everybody, fuel, carbon tax, labour rates. We all have them loading on. We are simply trying to recover where we are across all the commercial fares in the absence of subvention.