Oireachtas Joint and Select Committees
Wednesday, 15 October 2025
Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach
Scrutiny of EU Legislative Proposals
2:00 am
Mr. Jannik Knauer:
I will jump in on this one. It is important to clearly differentiate the purpose of the SAFE agreement and its loan principle to provide member states with loans to purchase, including the purchase of weapons, and the actual use of these weapons. As I tried to underline at the very beginning - I think it was my first intervention - in the recitals of this regulation, there are some clear references to laws prohibiting the use, development and production of certain defence technologies and products. To a certain degree, part of the scenarios that the Deputy pictured are covered by these provisions. Of course, apart from that, and this is not the SAFE regulation, the rule of law regulation still applies, which is outside the SAFE regulation per se. The question of the rule of law with regard to specific member states is not part of the SAFE regulation. It is the overall objective. If you see it in the overall as key to the EU it is covered, but it is not in the regulation per se.
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