Mr. David Sweeney:

On insourcing initiatives, the model that Beaumont has historically operated has been on the basis of self-sufficiency. We would hire a consultant on our payroll. They would work through waiting lists and our waiting list targets would be pursued. We would not have had in any point in time a double payment to consultants. The relationship between the hospital and those consultants is employer-employee. On the conflicts of interest with that insourcing model, there would not have been any conflicts of interest.