Cathy Bennett (Cavan-Monaghan, Sinn Fein)

I am just trying to understand it. It just does not make sense that we have so many hospitals and we are building a huge new hospital that is costing a lot of money and then we are still spending this money on outsourcing. It just does not make sense, so I am just trying to get my ahead around that.

Administration expenses within the NTPF were €12 million a year - is that correct? - last year or in 2024.