Mr. Brian Nolan:

Very few. There are maintenance crews in a number of colleges. I know there are talks about apprenticeships in the public sector. My view and that of Connect is that the public sector has been missing a beat with apprenticeships, because if we take into account local authorities, education, the OPW and health, there could be a craft apprenticeship for the public sector. Imagine an electrician doing an apprenticeship and, over the four years, working in all those environments. By the end of that time, the State would have a great opportunity to look at somebody who is crafts-qualified in respect of working in the public sector, rather than the image of somebody going in and potentially being there until they are 65, and asking if we have that relationship with them. That changes. There could be somebody that services the actual needs.