Mr. Hugh Creegan:

We have a contractor in place, as the Deputy says, designing and building the system. These are not simple, off-the-shelf products. They just are not. The extra complexity is keeping the existing Leap card system going in parallel while we put in the new system. That is an end-of-life, really stretched system at the moment. The Deputy is obviously familiar with the four release phases that we are doing. I have not got all the details off the top of my head. We will deploy the final phase for the Dublin area, which covers all of the bus network, the Luas network and the rail network in the Dublin area, at some point in 2028. There will be stages before that when we are doing largely pilots. We are doing a stage where we put in validators that read Leap Cards but they will not be energised to read contactless until we get parts of the back office finished. It is a complex project but we are targeting 2028 to roll it out across the Dublin area.