Joe Neville (Kildare North, Fine Gael)

It is ten times the size of us. Yes, it is a completely different number. I have been a councillor with Deputy Cronin; we had the good fortune to be councillors together for five years. I was a town councillor for five years before this, but I had been a councillor for 15 years before I got elected here. Judicial reviews were not overly a thing we came across as such, but my God, all of a sudden in the last three or four years, we have been starting to hear it more and more. Sometimes, we heard it anecdotally because one does not pick up on everything as a councillor - it is not one's day job - but my God, we heard about judicial reviews. That is obviously symptomatic of what we are seeing. It is the new reality. That is something we raised with the Minister, Deputy Chambers, but we need to have him attend before us.