Mr. John Jordan:

Two things. We already have apprenticeship degrees in some areas. That should be expanded so that, immediately, it is more accessible for people. They learn and earn. They are already getting paid. There is immediate productivity on the ground. When they start their education, they are already making a contribution to the economy. As well as that, they are being helped along by earning. You hear the thing in the news around it not being free education and so on. In this case, they would actually have the opportunity to earn money.