Catherine Ardagh (Dublin South Central, Fianna Fail)

I understand that. We are discussing Daniel and his family and Kyran and his family. Those families will probably at some stage be reading our transcripts, so it is really important that we acknowledge them. We are talking about learnings from their deaths but that is no solace to their families, so I just want to say it is awful for them, their families and all those who cared for them.

Tusla is doing a review of 42,000 cases that are closed. The opening statement noted that populations can be transient, there is a lot of migration, between immigration and outward migration. Are the witnesses aware of a case we have missed? Has anything been brought to their attention as of now?