Ms Kate Duggan:

I think what the chair wrote was that we had had the most significant investment in the agency ever, with a 14% increase in investment. We are starting to see that now. We have more social workers and more social care workers. We are making progress, compared to where we were five or six years ago as an agency. What we are seeing, and why we welcome these discussions, is a tsunami of demand where children and families are in very significant-----